Peony, regarding your ND post below

enough is enough already. Please explain to me why for crying out loud, why one of the countries most notable universities named after our Blessed Mother, 12K people who sought a Catholic education, none of those people in the auditorium knew what our faith is. I don’t understand it. This campus should have bells chiming at noon, and everyone stopping and praying the Angelus, reciting the words “And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us…” Do they not know Christ was our Redeemer in the womb? My mother grew up in Harlem in the fifties and remembers the bells chiming for the Angelus, and she wasn’t Catholic then, let alone attending a fancy, Catholic University.
We are lacking in formation. We are in worship. And we are lacking in a Catholic culture.
Shouldn’t this be a sign? Enough of being a nice Church. It’s time to be a Catholic Church.
Whew, just, you know, had to get that out my system.


  1. You called me despicable in another blog..and I laugh at you. You amuse me. The Catholic Church is a dying institution. For goodness sake, ND had Obama speak at their graduation…and Catholics went to listen. It doesn’t matter if you are a nice church, or the Catholic Church….the fact is you are an irrelevant church. It is wonderful to watch.

  2. You call me despicable in another blog…and I laugh at you. You amuse me. ND has Obama speak at commencement, and Catholics flock to listen. You can be a nice church, or a Catholic Church…but the fact is you are an irrelevant church. And it is amusing and wonderful to watch.

  3. Did I? Oh yeah, now I remember. It was that line you made about how women who find themselves in the position of unplanned pregnancies tend to be poor, crackhead, whores. You know, most women don’t like to be called “crackheads” (since many of us at some time or another have found themselves pregnant when it wasn’t planned), and that might set one of us to use harsh language such as “despicable”.
    Anyway, thanks for laughing your way over to our modest, little blog and pointing out how irrelevant we are. I’ll take that into consideration. Thanks. 🙂

  4. Welcome to the blog, Jake. I assure you, the amusement is mutual. Your assertion that a Church of over 1,000,000,000 members, is “irrelevant”? That’s pretty funny. You should tell the major media; they certainly seem interested when the Pope comes to town.
    I do hope you’ll explain to us exactly to what the Church is irrelevant? Perhaps you should inform President Obama that he would have done better to accept another university’s invitation; I doubt he was there for the 7-6 football team, when not even the Super Bowl champions rate a visit to Pittsburgh.
    And did you really declare that most women who find themselves in unplanned pregnancies are poor crackhead whores? How strange! The women I’ve known who found themselves unexpectedly pregnant were middle-class non-addicted college students. But perhaps we just move in different circles.

  5. Actually, in all fairness, that is not what he said. What he said over at Curt Jester was this:

    By Daniel G. Fink on May 18, 2009 10:27 PM
    I guess your also glad the “burden wasn’t too high” for your mother.
    By Jake on May 18, 2009 10:32 PM
    Hey Daniel….got it the first time, thanks. My mother, not that you would know, was prepared to have a child. So I am glad my mother was in position to raise and care for a child. I am also glad that others have a choice.
    By Jake on May 18, 2009 10:43 PM
    And furthermore….yes, if my mother was a crack addict or an individual who would resent me and make my life a living Hell, than I think she could have saved everyone a miserable existence. What is the point? Why would you rather have the mother forced to have the baby, and then ignore it, beat it, starve it, etc. Have mercy for goodness sake. I bet the baby would be happy to be spared that life. And yes, I truly believe that.

    The implication that an unplanned pregnancy is a formula for child abuse and neglect made me see red.

  6. I haven’t been the best ambassador of “dialogue” lately. My apologies. I apologize to Jake as well.

  7. By the way…I wanted to respond to the assertion that the Catholic Church, all 1,000,000,000 of you is irrelevant. What I was trying to say, maybe not so clearly in my abortion post, is that, for the most part, the Catholic membership is made up of what you like to call “Cafeteria Catholics.” Sure, many claim to be Catholic, but for the most part, they are not. Proof of this is Notre Dame asking President Obama to speak. Now, I realize that this blog is the real deal (no sarcasm by the way, I respect your faith and devotion). But really, the ideals of Catholicism is fading. Now, I am happy about this (as if you didn’t know), and I feel that it in the future it is only going to get worse for your side.

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